WtF a Broadcast Episode #9: Dark/Grimdark Fantasy

In our latest webcast we talk about grimdark fantasy. We cover some of the authors that write these grittier works of fantasy like Abercrombie and Martin. We also discuss some of the negative press grimdark gets and why we think this type of fantasy has value.

Panelists:

June Faramore
Lisa Richardson
CJ Casey

Webcast Notes:

  • 0:00:01 – theme song/intro
  • 0:03:05 – dark/grimdark fantasy definitions/controversy
  • 0:06:59 – The Black Jewels Trilogy by Anne Bishop
  • 0:10:54 – grimdark and the treatment of rape and sex
  • 0:16:20 – The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever
  • 0:18:20 – Harry Potter and dark elements
  • 0:23:54 – Michael Moorcock, dark elves
  • 0:27:22 – Malazan series
  • 0:29:55 – Abercrombie and traits of grimdark fantasy, compare and contrasting works
  • 0:36:17 – writing styles, reading – Best Served Cold
  • 0:41:53 – Shakespeare – Titus Andronicus
  • 0:45:21 – why you should read grimdark – complex characters
  • 0:47:51 – the darker side of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
  • 0:50:08 – character death and dismemberment – George R.R. Martin, Joe Abercrombie
  • 0:52:23 – worlds of grimdark – setting, aside about LoTR
  • 0:58:33 – summation, why you shouldn’t dismiss grimdark rant
  • 1:05:00 – theme song/outro

Recommendations:

Joe AbercrombieFirst Law Trilogy, Best Served Cold
George R.R. Martin – A Song of Ice and Fire
Stephen R. Donaldson – The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever
Robin HobbFarseer Trilogy, Liveship Traders, Tawny Man Trilogy
Michael Moorcock – Elric of Melnibone
Glen Cook–Black Company
Steven Erikson–Malazan, especially The Chain of Dogs
Anne Bishop – Black Jewels Trilogy
Shakespeare – Titus Andronicus

Movies – Titus, Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, Watchmen

T.V. – Game of Thrones, Battlestar Galactica (reimagined), Star Trek: Deep Space Nine

Comics – The First Law, Watchmen

Other sources – Joe Abercrombie – The Value of Grit, Saladin Ahmed and fantasy tropes – The Big Idea: Saladin Ahmed

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